tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post7982444179930647320..comments2024-03-27T11:43:33.889-04:00Comments on Stapleton Kearns: A little about classicism and romanticismStapleton Kearnshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00226409516935208164noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-28031475708937934972009-06-18T00:45:07.076-04:002009-06-18T00:45:07.076-04:00Willek:
I don't care if a painting tells a sto...Willek:<br />I don't care if a painting tells a story or not. I get way to hung up in what the paintings actually look like.If the painting looks good and it tells a story,fine. If it doesn't look good, no story matters enough to save it.<br />...............StapeStapleton Kearnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00226409516935208164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-66084963461072424742009-06-17T23:11:31.277-04:002009-06-17T23:11:31.277-04:00Boy, Stape, the comments are really getting good. ...Boy, Stape, the comments are really getting good. You are turning some heads, But recalcitrant... something to do with the metabolism of vitamin D as I recall. <br />Seriously, we are talking about whether we might bend a picture towards Classicism or Romantic, where in this spectrum does story telling come in. Where do you stand on having a painting communicate a story.willekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05626541339963605016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-61107457532359119102009-06-17T22:41:23.678-04:002009-06-17T22:41:23.678-04:00Deb:
The cox book is presented as being of interes...Deb:<br />The cox book is presented as being of interest, the Vanderpoel is essential. Read the Cox book sometime down the road when you can. Besides the $7.00 cost of the Vanderpoel makes it a great buy. Same with the Carlson.<br /><br />ciessyno: noncommittal answer given by recalcitrant Etruscan maidens to aging but artistically talented suitors. <br />.................StapeStapleton Kearnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00226409516935208164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-33226606890805731962009-06-17T22:31:10.411-04:002009-06-17T22:31:10.411-04:00Kev;
You are making my head spin. Remember, I left...Kev;<br />You are making my head spin. Remember, I left high school early to more fully participate in the 1960s.<br />The secret society of sorcero-limners trace their history back to the caves at Lascaux, where they squatted in the guano and muttered about the light,they left their fingerprints on the red figured ware amphorae of the Attic period and toiled unrecognized in the modern workshops of the Hummell masters. More than this, I must save for my book. tentatively titled "Down country roads with Stapleton Kearns"<br />...............StapeStapleton Kearnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00226409516935208164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-12239365962462389882009-06-17T22:17:44.849-04:002009-06-17T22:17:44.849-04:00Jeremy;
I will dig some and get back to you on tha...Jeremy;<br />I will dig some and get back to you on that. I do have a great picture of Kenyon Cox from when he was studying in France. Remind me, I will do a Kenyon Cox post, perhaps he will have to share the stage with Edwin Blashfield though.Stapleton Kearnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00226409516935208164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-60895162716153597872009-06-17T22:14:57.135-04:002009-06-17T22:14:57.135-04:00deepbluehue;
I intend to do a series of posts on ...deepbluehue;<br /><br />I intend to do a series of posts on design(composition) in the future, but I want to make it all of a piece as it will go on for a long time, and I don't want to go at it piecemeal. I will see if I can answer that question when I do that.<br />I am getting my new computer equipment on line and will soon be operational in photoshop again, which I will need to talk effectively about design. In fact the posts of the last few days as well as tonight's are adaptations to not having that. <br />........StapeStapleton Kearnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00226409516935208164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-65724243454162709632009-06-17T22:08:28.734-04:002009-06-17T22:08:28.734-04:00To members of the Church of Jesus Christ of latter...To members of the Church of Jesus Christ of latter day Saints,and to whomever else, it may in the future concern.<br /><br />This blog has no useful opinion on religion or politics, although I am myself both religious and political. Any opinion expressed in a comment on either one is that of its maker, and does not reflect that of the blog itself. The object of this blog is to be an art tutorial and I want everyone who reads it to feel welcomed and valued regardless of their religion, politics, ethnicity or artistic preferences. I am aware that this blog now has a large and surprisingly varied,worldwide readership.I am glad all of you are here.I am used, therefore I am useful<br />............StapeStapleton Kearnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00226409516935208164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-89579556388617176892009-06-17T21:46:08.410-04:002009-06-17T21:46:08.410-04:00Jesse;
The person who made that comment is very fo...Jesse;<br />The person who made that comment is very fond of Ingres and was I think attempting to draw me out. They are from a painting family and have actually built classical educational programs for the public schools,in reaction to a perceived need.<br />..................StapeStapleton Kearnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00226409516935208164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-73158886524507645182009-06-17T21:34:16.979-04:002009-06-17T21:34:16.979-04:00Richard:
Thanks for the endorsement.
I did not fe...Richard:<br />Thanks for the endorsement.<br /> I did not feel you were making light of the blog. I am in fact flattered that I have so many serious full time painters following it.I would recommend Richards blog <br /><br />http://richardluschek.blogspot.com/<br />.......................StapeStapleton Kearnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00226409516935208164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-52297659798840241472009-06-17T16:11:44.670-04:002009-06-17T16:11:44.670-04:00Both yesterday and today have been very interestin...Both yesterday and today have been very interesting discussions. Thanks Stape and everyone for comments.<br />Vanderpoel's book arrived in the mail today, so I'll be pouring over that tonight I'm sure. A quick glance has certainly whet my appetite to try copying some of those drawings. Now I'll have to go look for Cox's book too. Who knew this blog could be so expensive?<br /><br />"ciessyno" falling asleep while trying to copy Italian paintings.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01799016923038189074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-7527200949181970902009-06-17T13:04:08.801-04:002009-06-17T13:04:08.801-04:00Another great blog post.
I know what you mean abo...Another great blog post.<br /><br />I know what you mean about reading up on pre-WWI aesthetics. Not only do you need to concentrate like mad, but you also need to read what they were reading to get the references. German Idealism, Platonism, Goethe, Baudelaire, Mallarme... Swedenborg sometimes... great fun but enormously taxing. I have yet to read Cox, but now I will seek it out.<br /><br />I am glad you were bequeathed the secrets of the ages by sorcero-limners. Regarding their identities, I wonder if you might impart the lineage, if not the names. Who does this knowledge trace back to? Pyle? Delacroix? DaVinci? :)<br /><br />Have you ever noticed: It seems the romantics understood the classicist methods fairly thoroughly, but the classicists thought the romantics were crazy, (talking of illusions, symbols, and magicks and things unseen...) Regardless, both philosophies have claims on platonic timelessness that seem correct to me.<br /><br />Anyway,<br />kevkev ferrarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09509572970616136990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-56505106616784780752009-06-17T12:58:16.151-04:002009-06-17T12:58:16.151-04:00I love Kenyon Cox, but it seems really hard to fin...I love Kenyon Cox, but it seems really hard to find reproductions of his drawings - do you have an idea where to find them?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17579185594957855023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-38935132805877471452009-06-17T12:48:41.150-04:002009-06-17T12:48:41.150-04:00I was wondering if you could talk about compositio...I was wondering if you could talk about composition, and how it is used differently by Classical and Romantic artists. I know that the subject matter has changed from Classical art, but how has composition changed? Romantic art, particularly modern Romantic art looks and feels very different from Classical art. I can tell that the color palette choices are different, and lighting is less dramatic.deepbluehuehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08293944488211680743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-45955855870879318992009-06-17T12:29:51.236-04:002009-06-17T12:29:51.236-04:00What adjective is used to describe a painter is pr...What adjective is used to describe a painter is pretty subjective.<br /><br />One could say that Ingres is cold and soulless. <br /><br />One could also say that Bouguereau's work would look great on a Hallmark card, and has the substance of cotton candy. <br /><br />To me it is a total waste of time to debate that sort of thing. There are individual artists that I personally like in almost all movements. Just as I don't try to convince the Mormons who knock on my door that they are delusional, I wouldn't try to convince anyone that an artist is soulless.Jessehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02313737532863013363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-51943538087860058332009-06-17T11:47:53.758-04:002009-06-17T11:47:53.758-04:00Yes, I was kind of riffing off your post in my own...Yes, I was kind of riffing off your post in my own self absorbed way. <br />It is a great post. <br />I also did not mean to make light of this blog. Please note that it is the best one on the web for painters. I am just very impressed that your ability to post surpassed my ability to read and process the information. <br />Please keep it up and put me on the list for ordering your book- which I am sure will be reasonably priced.Richard J. Luschek IIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17391295820585129843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-75044209033414745932009-06-17T11:38:46.818-04:002009-06-17T11:38:46.818-04:00Richard:
The term classical realism never crossed ...Richard:<br />The term classical realism never crossed my mind when I wrote this post, perhaps I should amend it. The painting to which you refer is not particularly classical and I never use the phrase. I certainly don't think of my self as that. I use the phrase traditional oil painting for my own work.<br />As for crazy amount of posts, I am trying to post everything an aspiring painter needs to know,that I know in an abbreviated form. There is a wall out there, where I will have posted everything I know about painting, or at least everything that I feel qualified to discuss. This blog is my way of setting a daily writing discipline for myself. Then my job in this blog will be finished and I will collate it, and add a substantial amount of obscure yet invaluable information imparted to me alone by a secret society of sorcero-limners and publish that as a book.<br />.......StapeStapleton Kearnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00226409516935208164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-91440797736292310392009-06-17T11:26:54.477-04:002009-06-17T11:26:54.477-04:00I have never been a fan of the term Classical Real...I have never been a fan of the term Classical Realism. Not really sure what a better term is, but it would be nice of todays painters that work realistically could come up with something better. It is a term that I think fosters and attitude of being cold and calculated- of course I have other thoughts as to why I think contemporary Boston school work can feel that way- secret thoughts. I am pretty sure when I was digging through the files at Ingbretson studios I found a letter by Gammell about how he did not like the term either- but then I was never able to find it again. I may have been dreaming it.<br />I have found that those painters today that push towards the classical are usually not as interesting for a few reasons. One is I think our cultural attitude, the other is that it is just not done as well anymore- usually the problem is weak design.<br /><br />The books of Keynon Cox -from the Cincinnati area by the way, should be hunted down by anyone that wants to be a painter and read cover to cover. <br />It is not an easy read but I think it flows pretty well. It is not as difficult as reading Reynolds Discourses. To get through that I practically had to submerge myself in a sensory deprivation tank. <br /><br />We could use a bit of romance in todays work. I think modern movie makers are doing it with their work much better than painters. I am not sure that is a fair comparison, but I think we should look to those doing successful 'art' in film and learn from them. Well, I suppose we could look at painters too, like the examples you listed. <br />Great topic as usual. <br />You will be happy to know that due to your crazy amounts of posts with amazing information, I have stopped painting so I have more time to read them. I have stopped eating and sleeping so I can ponder them. I have ended the relationship with my wife so I can rest from reading and pondering these posts. It is all about priorities. <br />ThanksRichard J. Luschek IIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17391295820585129843noreply@blogger.com