tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post8261351694444091721..comments2024-03-27T11:43:33.889-04:00Comments on Stapleton Kearns: June critique 3Stapleton Kearnshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00226409516935208164noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-49054219079113141022009-06-14T00:06:55.092-04:002009-06-14T00:06:55.092-04:00Geee, Stape. What you do with the photoshop is rea...Geee, Stape. What you do with the photoshop is really helpful. It is a fantastic way to show all of us what you are really talking about. I would have to say it is better hytan at verbal crit in every way. WillEKwillekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05626541339963605016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-27278080349983471932009-06-13T23:58:04.674-04:002009-06-13T23:58:04.674-04:00Willlek
I will adress that tomorrow too.
.....Sta...Willlek<br /> I will adress that tomorrow too.<br />.....StapeStapleton Kearnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00226409516935208164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-89668426255584668612009-06-13T23:55:56.234-04:002009-06-13T23:55:56.234-04:00I have been unstapling some of my old canvases off...I have been unstapling some of my old canvases off of their stretchers abd stacjubg them up. I recently did that and cropped and restretched a portion of the picture and it was much improved. But I think it is cheating. WillEKwillekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05626541339963605016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-9662703324123365202009-06-13T21:19:13.410-04:002009-06-13T21:19:13.410-04:00Deb
That is very wise stuff. I remember reading so...Deb<br />That is very wise stuff. I remember reading something like that once too. Was it Kubler Ross? Or was it Emden Meyerhof?<br />............StapeStapleton Kearnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00226409516935208164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-57930743020341412982009-06-13T21:16:41.381-04:002009-06-13T21:16:41.381-04:00Jeremy;
Gee, I thought Vanderpoel was obscure.
The...Jeremy;<br />Gee, I thought Vanderpoel was obscure.<br />The other cool thing about digital is that you can save each state and revert back to that if you lose it.The cruelest thing a wife can say to a husband is "a......whaddja doota it?"<br />.......StapeStapleton Kearnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00226409516935208164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-77950709072764514602009-06-13T21:13:12.246-04:002009-06-13T21:13:12.246-04:00deepbluehue:
Thanks,I believe I may addres that s...deepbluehue:<br /><br />Thanks,I believe I may addres that some more tomorrow also.<br />.....StapeStapleton Kearnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00226409516935208164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-70962033980939757332009-06-13T21:11:39.956-04:002009-06-13T21:11:39.956-04:00Deb ,
Tomorrow I am going to post a cautionary n...Deb , <br /> Tomorrow I am going to post a cautionary note on throwing paintings away.<br />.....StapeStapleton Kearnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00226409516935208164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-33989415195607639702009-06-13T21:10:07.520-04:002009-06-13T21:10:07.520-04:00Deb;
That's probably the right choice. I have ...Deb;<br />That's probably the right choice. I have several antique copies of Carlson, but I try to preserve them by using my 1960's copy.<br />......StapeStapleton Kearnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00226409516935208164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-57264766731690315872009-06-13T21:08:26.294-04:002009-06-13T21:08:26.294-04:00John:
Thanks,
I guess I will begin to shop for a ...John:<br />Thanks, <br />I guess I will begin to shop for a new laptop.<br /> . Until then I will use one of the old cpu's from the closet and patch together some kind of a unit.There are computer dinosaurs around here and I will have something to use for sure.<br /><br />......StapeStapleton Kearnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00226409516935208164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-24941759267248256432009-06-13T19:41:14.041-04:002009-06-13T19:41:14.041-04:00Somewhere, sometime ago I read a piece that descri...Somewhere, sometime ago I read a piece that described the 4 levels of learning. It has always stuck with me, and I think they do apply to us as painters. <br />The first level is unconscious incompetence - that's the person who simply doesn't know that he doesn't know much about painting (or whatever) and sets out to paint a picture and might be pleased with the results. <br />Then, he wants to paint some more,and at some point, he begins to realize there's more to it, other people have painted way better paintings. That's the second level: conscious incompetence. Now he realizes there's lots he doesn't know and he sets out to learn.<br />At some point, after much practice, and maybe a workshop or two with Stapleton, he does learn a thing or two, and he is now consciously applying all the principles he's beginning to understand. He has to think about them, and still requires practice and effort, but, he can make it happen with more or less degrees of success. That is the third level: conscious competence. <br />The last level is when all the years and years of painting and practicing come together, and there are many things that now are just second nature.. he might not even consciously think about using aerial perspective,for example, he just does it because it is almost second nature... he just knows. That is the fourth level, and called "unconscious competence".<br />I think we spend most of our time bouncing back and fourth between level 2, 3, and 4, as it applies to various principles in painting. We gain a certain level of expertise in one area, and it begins to be just part of how we paint.. we don't have to think about it alot, but then we run into a problem and realize we have some growing to do, and we're back at level 2, and we work our way back up to 3, and hopefully 4, in that arena.<br />Well, I know this is a long comment, but I think it does give good reason why things seem harder the more we paint - we just know more now and have higher levels of expectation, and a broader base of knowledge to realize what's out there that we just don't know yet.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01799016923038189074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-15145943410103215142009-06-13T19:30:23.761-04:002009-06-13T19:30:23.761-04:00Thanks for your critique. It's funny, I think...Thanks for your critique. It's funny, I think I am doing all the stuff you are saying, but I think I am being too tentative and not going far enough. I have Vanderpoel's book, but I haven't read it in a long while - I must revisit it.<br /><br />I will make a lot of corrections and then resubmit. The nice thing about digital is that I can continually work on it until I get it right.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17579185594957855023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-2149763260180075992009-06-13T18:38:24.184-04:002009-06-13T18:38:24.184-04:00I'm glad that I'm not alone in thinking th...I'm glad that I'm not alone in thinking that painting and drawing gets harder the longer you work at it. I'm struggling to learn and I always feel like I'm taking big steps backwards.<br /><br />I'm really enjoying this blog. Thank you for sharing your wisdom and for doing critiques.deepbluehuehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08293944488211680743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-81438631198273042412009-06-13T13:45:10.006-04:002009-06-13T13:45:10.006-04:00Oh, and I may not be able to leave the old paintin...Oh, and I may not be able to leave the old painting alone. It is really bugging me now that I look at it with "older, more experienced" eyes. <br />I tend to throw old, bad ones away.<br />My hubby finds them in the trash, retrieves them, and hides them. I find them again, and throw them away a second time when he's not home. This one is either headed for the dump or a second round on the easel. It is an odd size canvas that I don't have any more of. (good enough excuses?)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01799016923038189074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-62354142240090231812009-06-13T13:40:30.870-04:002009-06-13T13:40:30.870-04:00okay, thanks for the feedback John and Stape... I ...okay, thanks for the feedback John and Stape... I am going for the paperback version. Since just about everything in this house eventually ends up with paint on it - the refrigerator handle, the cabinet doors, the phone, the mouse, the keyboard.. I should probably get a version that doesn't need gentle treatment.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01799016923038189074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-2415723508885135442009-06-13T12:56:14.396-04:002009-06-13T12:56:14.396-04:00I just recently bought a paperback copy and the re...I just recently bought a paperback copy and the reproductions, while I haven't seen an older version, are very good. I have spent hours copying some of the more elaborate charcoal drawings in there and never felt like I needed more visual info. <br /><br />It's good to see a head crit, Stape. I know you do landscapes mostly, but maybe you could do some figure crits, too?<br /><br />Anyway, great post all around and best of luck resolving your computer troubles.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05498251596454119131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-66195550878729509522009-06-13T08:31:41.682-04:002009-06-13T08:31:41.682-04:00Deb;
My copy is 30 years old,but it is a paperback...Deb;<br />My copy is 30 years old,but it is a paperback. I haven't seen a new one.I can't say, however I would probably buy the hardcover if you think you will treat it gently and the paperback if you intend to abuse it. My copy is very well worn.<br /><br />I advise you to leave the old painting alone if you can. Keep it as a develpmental record. Make a copy of it and work on that. It is a lot faster than it sounds. You may lose a couple hours to the copying, but you won't lose your "notes"if things don't go well, you might lose the old one, this way you can freely experiment yet still have a guide.<br />.............StapeStapleton Kearnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00226409516935208164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-87674308219621002942009-06-13T08:13:58.450-04:002009-06-13T08:13:58.450-04:00Question, Stape. Looking at Vanderpoel's book...Question, Stape. Looking at Vanderpoel's book. Some reviews of it state that an older copy actually has better quality on the illustrations. I have found some of the older hardcover versions online - do you happen to know whether that is the case or not? Are the new paperbacks sufficient? thanks.<br />great comments, as usual. I especially appreciated the handling of the landscape as I have a similar scene that I want to "re-do". Which begs another query. Do you ever go back and "fix" older paintings?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01799016923038189074noreply@blogger.com