tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post9164437174694593063..comments2024-03-27T11:43:33.889-04:00Comments on Stapleton Kearns: A thought about juries for exhibitionsStapleton Kearnshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00226409516935208164noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-65243747224514923782011-07-25T15:45:09.442-04:002011-07-25T15:45:09.442-04:00Nice post Stape !
Reading that I could not stop th...Nice post Stape !<br />Reading that I could not stop thinking of the big cliche of the salon during the french impressionists ... <br />Also, how to judge a painting ??? man I would not like to judge. It is funny how people with less skill or technical knowledge will blow the pros sometimes or most of the times just because they have something to say and they know how to say it. Seems like good art should be a bumper sticker, it should have a statement. <br />What I cannot understand it is why those artists wants to be juried ? I mean you know if you do crap or good stuff.Antonin Passemardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13201960897907738589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-82595728783265074962011-07-25T10:33:04.302-04:002011-07-25T10:33:04.302-04:00And what about the sulman art prize Stape?
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h...And what about the sulman art prize Stape?<br /><br />: D<br /><br />http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/art-and-design/confessions-of-an-art-judge-i-tossed-a-coin-to-decide-20110423-1ds4l.htmlNoemí Gonzálezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10318557498287110957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-87729617169632983682011-07-25T09:10:20.540-04:002011-07-25T09:10:20.540-04:00A goal oriented artist, focused on success, simply...A goal oriented artist, focused on success, simply cannot afford to let their ego be bruised by rejection from a juried show. You have to continue to work in the face of all odds continuing to improve your work and submit it to the market and other forms of scrutiny. That is the playing field. Some people my get political favors while you may not. You cannot afford to give that reality a moments lament. Keep your eyes on the prize.<br /><br />I met a Florida novelist who told me she wrote countless short stories and books over a 13 year period. She submitted them to publisher after publisher, receiving rejection after rejection. Finally someone liked a manuscript she wrote. It was published and now she has several successful books on the market and makes a damn good living. To top it off this person was struggling with bi-polar disease, too!<br /><br />So, yeah, juries will not always like what you submit. Move on. Next!Robert J. Simonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06799208093956328662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-38205770757092296102011-07-25T08:16:40.673-04:002011-07-25T08:16:40.673-04:00jury!jury!Libby Fifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13532162740012986996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-13247889761974432212011-07-25T08:16:23.132-04:002011-07-25T08:16:23.132-04:00I live in a small town area and so there is a lot ...I live in a small town area and so there is a lot of, "Well, we know this person and so let's get them in the show" type of approach. There are also lots of straight open shows with really loose jurying (I imagine). There is something for everyone I guess. My approach is that there is a grain of truth in everything; something to be learned from every submission whether you are accepted or not. I prefer a jusry of my peers in the community in which I live and work. In the end that feels more representative to me.Libby Fifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13532162740012986996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-16893276828716294082011-07-24T23:24:20.096-04:002011-07-24T23:24:20.096-04:00I think part of the problem with the jurying proce...I think part of the problem with the jurying process is that it's so hard to get artists to agree upon a set of criteria that can be objectively and fairly debated. Most jurors are afraid of controversy and blow back, moreso of having an argument that will prolong the painful jurying process. But the fact remains, that if there is a standard for acceptance or for excellence, it should be definable in clear and uncertain terms. I wrote about this in a <a href="http://www.sageartsstudio.com/drawingboard/?p=239&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1" rel="nofollow">recent post</a> [shameless plug], and discussed some of the issues involved, there are two parts to this.Anthony Sellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02361827364735024235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-80243171649160439262011-07-24T21:49:09.472-04:002011-07-24T21:49:09.472-04:00No, no ... not the dreaded newspaper art critic - ...No, no ... not the dreaded newspaper art critic - who may very well not have a clue beyond the research for this week's column! I was once told by one of those folks who was very enthusiastic and well meaning (but clueless) that my work reminded him of the works of Grandma Moses and Winslow Homer. Ummm ... their styles were no where near similar and my style resembles NEITHER of them! He just spit out the first names that popped into his head, intending to complement me. I certainly wouldn't want him as an outside juror for a show!<br />Great post, always. And I agree that there's likely no solution as the "outs" will always complain of injustice no matter what. The best jurors, if allowed to speak, are those who say "I wish there were more awards"Plein Air Galhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11157926536676921563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-7013934096054942802011-07-24T21:15:35.142-04:002011-07-24T21:15:35.142-04:00I once told an instructor that juries are a crap s...I once told an instructor that juries are a crap shoot. He then asked me what that meant if I won?<br /><br />I still don't have a complete answer for that, but I don't take rejection as hard as I once did.<br /><br />I do agree that an association, versus a general show should choose jurors from its members as an association usually has a direction, or type of art it was founded on to promote. An outside juror most likely would not understand.<br /><br />I believe that jurors have no choice but to choose art based on their experience and biases. So there is no real way to "fix" the problem.<br /><br />My recent approach has been to follow the old zen saying.<br /><br />If there is something you can do about it then why worry and if there is nothing you can do about it then why worry?<br /><br />And paint better.Bradyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02303974474663940213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-85148413302507935142011-07-24T19:52:58.147-04:002011-07-24T19:52:58.147-04:00A@ mariandioguardi: Yup. After Stapleton made min...A@ mariandioguardi: Yup. After Stapleton made mince meat of me at snow camp, I was inspired to excel (still working on it) also, not winning a juried show I was in made me work much harder the following year (working now) as well as inspired me to attend snowcamp in the first place to push myself in a different direction.<br />But aside from personal goals, I've seen many juries pick inferior work based on their own taste. In the end, you can't please a jury, only yourself. If you can do both-great.My3Starzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11549207108675671802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-87449309223084770262011-07-24T17:26:44.682-04:002011-07-24T17:26:44.682-04:00I agree that membership organizations should gover...I agree that membership organizations should govern themselves. It's nice to re charge everybody by inviting an outside juror in for a show or two. Membership should be juried by members. That makes sense to me.<br /><br />I get into juried shows more often than not but I am neither surprised when I am in nor when I am out. C'est la vie.<br /><br />Here is something that may get some people's knickers in a twist: In general, I find that women handle failure and rejection VERY different then men. This is also true in sciences. When a man gets his work rejected he typically responds by thinking " whats wrong with those people can't they see I am great. I'll show them." Women typically respond by saying " I guess I am not good enough and I wasn't meant to do this."<br /><br />What do you say to yourself after what you feel is a big rejection? I am more of the "I'll -show- them- type. If I wasn't motivated by rejection, I couldn't be doing this.mariandioguardi.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16963944767715466681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-76638646011783622162011-07-24T15:21:16.897-04:002011-07-24T15:21:16.897-04:00I agree with about 99% of your post on Juries and ...I agree with about 99% of your post on Juries and juried exhibitions, HOWEVER (grin, there's always one of those isnt there?) When I was a senior in college, an art education major, I won a significant scholarship out of many contenders for most outstanding portfolio. The scholarship was decided by "jurors", art instructors of the University. So I felt fairly confident when the annual student show came around that one if not all of my works would be selected for the show. When I arrived to check which of my works were chosen, It was with great dismay and embarrasment that I collected ALL of my rejected works and shuffled home. Incidently the jury was made up of artists OUTSIDE of the university. I stopped painting for 10 years after that, and picked outer ways to use my creative talent. I felt I must not have a whit of talent if I couldn't even get into the student show. Older and wiser now, I realized I'm not painting for any jury, I paint for myself. My customers are my jury, not anyone else.Kristen Dukat Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02375391506359875652noreply@blogger.com