tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post962983318660843175..comments2024-03-27T11:43:33.889-04:00Comments on Stapleton Kearns: Some artistic myths evisceratedStapleton Kearnshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00226409516935208164noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-65429791160406275652009-09-02T23:16:18.305-04:002009-09-02T23:16:18.305-04:00PS. I made my own panels today per your method. Si...PS. I made my own panels today per your method. Since I like my fingers, I'm letting my husband do the final cutting (the guy at the lumber yard cut it into strips, all that's left is to cut those in half)<br />Did you know that dog hair can magically fly from 20 feet away and land on the wet paint? That is not a happy accident.<br />"scantli" how those Zorn women are clad.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01799016923038189074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-51057245078192503772009-09-02T23:13:37.921-04:002009-09-02T23:13:37.921-04:00Terry
You are welcome. I should point out that I d...Terry<br />You are welcome. I should point out that I do like loose painting and sketches,when they are done with knowledge and skill. I am objecting to those that are only sloppy posing as facile. When people advise you like that,LOOK AT THEIR WORK! and then ask yourself,is this person doing something I want to do, or admire? If yes, skeptically apply what they say and see where it leads you. If the answer is no, nod affirmatively and make calming noises as you back away, and then find advise from someone who does impress you with their work. That might be in a book.<br />............StapeStapleton Kearnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00226409516935208164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-40056087328336873222009-09-02T23:07:07.571-04:002009-09-02T23:07:07.571-04:00And, everybody, Stapes blog post is featured in to...And, everybody, Stapes blog post is featured in today's newsletter on Fine Art Studio Online, which is pretty cool... goes to a billion or so readers. But WE got it first!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01799016923038189074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-3153634754389907692009-09-02T23:06:46.456-04:002009-09-02T23:06:46.456-04:00Betsey;
Thank you!
.........StapeBetsey;<br />Thank you!<br />.........StapeStapleton Kearnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00226409516935208164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-22378419460416133452009-09-02T23:06:03.702-04:002009-09-02T23:06:03.702-04:00Jeremy;
Thanks. Artists whose paint loosely and do...Jeremy;<br />Thanks. Artists whose paint loosely and do it well,are far more deliberate than amateurs who imitate them imagine. They DECIDE how each part of a painting should look.<br />..............StapeStapleton Kearnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00226409516935208164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-25643479397442476222009-09-02T23:03:40.754-04:002009-09-02T23:03:40.754-04:00Walter:
Thank you Zorn is so cool. I have posted o...Walter:<br />Thank you Zorn is so cool. I have posted on him before.<br /><br />..........StapeStapleton Kearnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00226409516935208164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-52522226029508340762009-09-02T23:02:08.543-04:002009-09-02T23:02:08.543-04:00Simone:
I am not an expert on Zorns technique, but...Simone:<br />I am not an expert on Zorns technique, but I think he used the three colors usually ascrbed to him until recently, however when he needed a blue, he used it! I work sometimes in limited palettes myself, but will decorate a painting in earth colors with something else if it suits my purpose. I sure like those Zorns for their tonality no matter how it was arrived at.<br />.........StapeStapleton Kearnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00226409516935208164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-30961595081700297372009-09-02T22:58:39.706-04:002009-09-02T22:58:39.706-04:00Bob;
An accidental as you define it is a good thin...Bob;<br />An accidental as you define it is a good thing. What I am disparaging is the idea that from lack of control, knowledge or care, excellence will emerge on its own. It is such an absurd idea that it could only have arisen in Academia ;)<br />.................StapeStapleton Kearnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00226409516935208164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-42978511015473458752009-09-02T22:54:33.700-04:002009-09-02T22:54:33.700-04:00Deb:
I lay therm in thinly, Then I paint the sky, ...Deb:<br />I lay therm in thinly, Then I paint the sky, then I paint the trees over the sky wet in wet, and them I touch up the sky and put in the sky holes. It is nit always easy to keep the sky color clean, but it is essential.<br /><br />Rumboon= Favor done for me years ago by a woman who had been drinking Singapore slings,Stapleton Kearnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00226409516935208164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-21095192911790971102009-09-02T22:50:52.414-04:002009-09-02T22:50:52.414-04:00ramon:
If I had not been an impressionist, I think...ramon:<br />If I had not been an impressionist, I think I could have been a vivisectionist.<br />..................StapeStapleton Kearnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00226409516935208164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-65134992026277811062009-09-02T22:49:37.221-04:002009-09-02T22:49:37.221-04:00Willek:
Thanks, I wondered where you had gone.
......Willek:<br />Thanks, I wondered where you had gone.<br />................StapeStapleton Kearnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00226409516935208164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-6730182919290442122009-09-02T22:47:59.449-04:002009-09-02T22:47:59.449-04:00Bill:
I think that it is easier to learn quickly w...Bill:<br />I think that it is easier to learn quickly when we are young. But there is a lot to said for the judgement which age installs.<br />..............StapeStapleton Kearnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00226409516935208164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-61747574682308896402009-09-02T22:46:28.777-04:002009-09-02T22:46:28.777-04:00Richard:
Thank you. Those artists to whom you refe...Richard:<br />Thank you. Those artists to whom you refer, I call meat cameras.<br />Don't die, you will be mythed.<br />...................StapeStapleton Kearnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00226409516935208164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-28326435123354016952009-09-02T21:18:30.055-04:002009-09-02T21:18:30.055-04:00thank you, thank you, thank you. As a relatively ...thank you, thank you, thank you. As a relatively new and mostly self taught painter, these "myths" are intimidating, even when my instincts tell me they are wrong. "Happy Accidents" are what happen to me because I don't yet know enough about what I am doing. My goal is to get to where my paintings are filled with decisions, not accidents. And the unfinished plein air paintings that seem to be popular leave me questioning my own taste - but it seems to me that a quick sketch, even if lovely, is not a polished work. On originality: I have lots of great ideas but I don't yet have the skills to realize them - so training and studying the greatest only makes sense - yet I have been cautioned that that will damage my own "voice". Thanks for dispelling this nonsense....Terry https://www.blogger.com/profile/12128153098834209943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-17361910326297323122009-09-02T18:47:11.168-04:002009-09-02T18:47:11.168-04:00I love a good BBQ! Great post!I love a good BBQ! Great post!Betsy LaMerehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14103026485896696878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-6777619487088869852009-09-02T13:01:45.233-04:002009-09-02T13:01:45.233-04:00Great pearls of wisdom!
You ideas about finish ar...Great pearls of wisdom!<br /><br />You ideas about finish are definitely helpful to me. Before I read your blog, I had a kind of "paint it and forget it" attitude in which I would create something quickly and not fix errors, then move on to the next thing. You have taught me that it is okay, important even, to take your time and make it right - even when painting alla prima.<br /><br />I think those who follow Schmid closely (us non-professionals) see his loose look and think that they can create that too by not finishing a painting. They don't know that his decisions are filtered through a lifetime of experience.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17579185594957855023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-20991644789761160042009-09-02T12:06:45.390-04:002009-09-02T12:06:45.390-04:00I love these paintings too, thanks for posting.I love these paintings too, thanks for posting.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07699546973021233767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-4045674715179690052009-09-02T11:40:15.059-04:002009-09-02T11:40:15.059-04:00I took two printmaking courses at the MFA school s...I took two printmaking courses at the MFA school some years ago and was encouraged to make happy accidents with the media. I did an etching of a window view one time and was told, by the tenured instructor, to forget about the reality, That could be picked up any time later. To their credit, they did have one drypoint session with a model, but it became clear later that we were to use the model as inspiration only and not try to do anything realistic.willekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05626541339963605016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-80877770069457911152009-09-02T10:12:20.397-04:002009-09-02T10:12:20.397-04:00Many practitioners of the limited palette site Zor...Many practitioners of the limited palette site Zorn as an example of what can be done with three colors. What do you think, Stape? Did Zorn really use a palette limited to venetian red, yellow ochre, black and white? I saw three of his paintings at the Met and I am certain he used other colors on at least one of them. Historians also say there were numerous other tubes in his studio. So, I doubt he was a three color purist.Robert J. Simonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06799208093956328662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-16507799974207515932009-09-02T08:13:55.969-04:002009-09-02T08:13:55.969-04:00Stape-
I thoroughly agree with your points, es...Stape-<br /> I thoroughly agree with your points, especially about “happy accidents”. I think the notion that there are such things in good painting is a misunderstanding of the original idea. I take it that the word “accident” was originally meant to describe certain strokes one may lay down that cannot be exactly duplicated, particularly in “loose” painting. For example, laying a trace of white foam on the crest of a wave with a lightly held and fully loaded brush leaves a certain mark, but one that you couldn’t do exactly the same way twice. But that’s no accident. It’s a deliberately made mark that has an intended quality of randomness in its actual form. I wonder if we should borrow a term from music to describe this – the noun “accidental”. An accidental in music is a deliberately sharped or flatted note that is not part of the standard scale of the key signature; i.e., it is not expected within the constraints of the tonality. That bit of foam on the wave is not expected from the logical constraints of the mind and brush. But it effectively and deliberately conveys the reality of the thing being depicted. I guess I’m suggesting that’s a happy accidental. (Not to be confused with Bob Ross’s “happy trees.”)<br />-BobBob Carterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16007673748065070945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-74855026451501954512009-09-02T07:53:05.657-04:002009-09-02T07:53:05.657-04:00Wow, those Zorns are something else. Thanks for po...Wow, those Zorns are something else. Thanks for posting.<br /><br />Yum.. those burgers are good.<br /><br />Question about process: IN painting in sky color, do you paint right up or into the tree shapes? I have trouble keeping the sky color clean, but I want to paint those silhouetted tree shapes wet into wet for the sake of the edges, but this tends to muddy the sky color. <br />"rumboon" a good word to say when a "happy accident" occurs. I think my Dentist said this once while drilling. Or it might have been something else.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01799016923038189074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-90635899022221816332009-09-02T01:46:03.424-04:002009-09-02T01:46:03.424-04:00sacred cows make delicious burgers :)sacred cows make delicious burgers :)Ramonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06368066115689857506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-1334156857652119652009-09-02T00:57:57.630-04:002009-09-02T00:57:57.630-04:00I have been at Swans Island in Maine painting for ...I have been at Swans Island in Maine painting for a few days (Painted in the blowing rain one day under my show tent. Cold, but dry.) and arrived to see the last 4 or 5 days of postings. All are stupendous. Great demos and the extremely delightful Zorns. Check out his "Opal" at the Worcester Art Museum. It really helps me to know your thought process as you proceed in the demos. For instance, compressing the view. I have been doing that unintentionally, probably not a good thing, and have been trying to correct for it. Got in from the trip and finished unpacking at 10:30. after reading all the posts, blogs, and chasing down the outside references, it is 1:00 a.m.willekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05626541339963605016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-83007466602273572042009-09-01T23:48:46.526-04:002009-09-01T23:48:46.526-04:00I totally agree about the Zorns. Thanks for postin...I totally agree about the Zorns. Thanks for posting them.<br /><br />I have found in my newfound art career the ability to tune out some of the myths/truths you clarify in this post. I have no artistic training except what I choose to read, watch and study. And in some way I think that has helped me. I'm not hung up on things/methods/rules that I might have been if I had had a university instructor brow-beating me for years. Not that I'm against learning, but as a middle aged man, I get to choose who to learn from and when. On that note, I'm hoping one of your workshops is in the future at some point. :)<br /><br />By the way, I bought RGH oils and love them.Billy Guffeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15630378626972553684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5682081471599286551.post-71049461021781960822009-09-01T23:30:30.610-04:002009-09-01T23:30:30.610-04:00oh, Zorn makes me giddy.
Stape, Most of these m...oh, Zorn makes me giddy. <br /> <br />Stape, Most of these myths were presented to me by people with masters degrees when I was in college. I find it hard to believe that they would take my hard earned money and give me bad information- "Myths". To do so would almost be immoral or completely stupid!<br />Did I mention they have Masters degrees?! <br /><br />As I have recently written about my own impending death on my blog, I am a big fan of your last myth.<br /><br />All jokes aside, great post as usual. Though I have to add, there are a lot of realist painters out there that need someone to tell them when to quit working, as they seem to paint till it looks more photographic than a photo. Nice exercise, but it is not art to me.Richard J. Luschek IIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17391295820585129843noreply@blogger.com